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		<title>Comments to FERC on MVP and ACP Now Needed</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 00:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Duane Nichols</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Afternoon, Just a reminder of some upcoming comment deadlines on MVP and ACP: ____________________________________________ Mountain Valley Pipeline (MVP) The Notice of Scoping comment period for MVP&#8217;s request to bore at 180+ waterbodies, FERC Docket CP21-57, closes tomorrow, April 15th at 4:59pm. If you want to weigh in, here are a couple options: Public petition [...]]]></description>
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	<p class="wp-caption-text">Mountain Valley Pipeline can contaminate rivers &#038; streams during construction</p>
</div><strong>Good Afternoon,</p>
<p>Just a reminder of some upcoming comment deadlines on MVP and ACP:</strong><br />
____________________________________________</p>
<p><strong>Mountain Valley Pipeline (MVP)</strong></p>
<p>The Notice of Scoping comment period for MVP&#8217;s request to bore at 180+ waterbodies, FERC Docket CP21-57, closes tomorrow, April 15th at 4:59pm.</p>
<p><strong>If you want to weigh in, here are a couple options:</strong></p>
<p>Public <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfpfVK-qIYKGXFlY0gtbj4iIbWv53Q0cH8vr3YZMaS5_KyTgg/viewform?gxids=7628">petition from App Voices, West Virginia Rivers Coalition, POWHR + CCAN</a>  </p>
<p> (URL to share: <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfpfVK-qIYKGXFlY0gtbj4iIbWv53Q0cH8vr3YZMaS5_KyTgg/viewform?gxids=7628">bit.ly/MVPscoping</a>) </p>
<p>>>>.  <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18HTGTZxI9pGLfUWuqDEF4Q4VsHAQdc6zhKnHQ9pNJlg/mobilebasic">CP21-57 Talking points</a></p>
<p>>>>.  <a href="https://act.sierraclub.org/actions/National?actionId=AR0326169&#038;id=70131000001Lp1FAAS">Sierra Club petition</a></p>
<p>>>>.  <a href="https://wildvirginia.org/join-wild-virginias-fight-against-mvp/">Wild Virginia Guide</a></p>
<p>>.  <a href="https://ferconline.ferc.gov/QuickComment.aspx">Submit a Comment via eComment directly into the docket</a></p>
<p>>.  <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/12OAbGYt3CvbUCs8kIWzDfHfUCbR-sxRm7PcMddsY7YA/mobilebasic#heading=h.30j0zll">Need help navigating the site?</a> </p>
<p>______________________________</p>
<p><strong>Atlantic Coast Pipeline (ACP)</strong></p>
<p>The ACP restoration plan comment period closes Friday, April 16th at 4:59pm.</p>
<p>>>>.  <a href="http://friendsofnelson.com/please-submit-comments-about-the-atlantic-coast-pipeline-restoration-plan-docket-cp15-554-009/">Here is information from Friends of Nelson on how to weigh in</a></p>
<p>>>>.  <a href="https://ferconline.ferc.gov/QuickComment.aspx">Submit a Comment via eComment directly into the docket</a></p>
<p>Thank you!<br />
&#8211;<br />
<strong>Jessica Sims, Virginia Field Coordinator</strong><br />
Appalachian Voices, 812 E. High Street<br />
Charlottesville, VA 22902</p>
<p>(434) 226-0589 office<br />
jessica@appvoices.org</p>
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		<title>Consider the Very Large Pipelines Planned for WV</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>S. Tom Bond</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Safety Aspect of Very Large Pipelines From Kevin Campbell (background below) as told to S. Thomas Bond Although Marcellus drilling in Upshur county has been light, I worked for a while driving chemical (HCl) trucks from a hydrochloric acid tank on the banks of the creek in Anmoore, Harrison County, to wells being drilled [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>The Safety Aspect of Very Large Pipelines</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong>From Kevin Campbell (background below) as told to S. Thomas  Bond</p>
<p>Although Marcellus drilling in Upshur county has been light, I  worked for a while driving chemical (HCl) trucks from a hydrochloric acid tank on the  banks of the creek in Anmoore, Harrison County, to wells being drilled in  Doddridge County.  I have taken as much as 4,000 gallons of HCl to one site in one day.  You have to have a special license to drive  chemical trucks.  After that, I drove an  EMT vehicle in Doddridge.  Today I am  with the Adrian Fire Department.</p>
<p>When I saw where the pipeline was going I began to think  about how that would affect emergency response.   The most conspicuous thing is how near it comes to Buckhannon-Upshur High  School, about one-half mile.   It also  travels very close to several populated areas.   Fire departments wouldn&#8217;t be able to get equipment to within two miles  because of the heat.</p>
<p>These 42 inch pipelines are new to the United States.  They have had them in Canada and elsewhere  for some time.  The engineering details  are well known. For example they operate at a maximum allowed pressure of 1440 psi,  almost 100 times atmospheric pressure. Then with a hole four times in diameter the  thickness of the pipe would cause the pipe to rupture like a balloon, digging a trench along  the pipeline hundreds of feet long.</p>
<p>The  fire will burn for days, because the distance between the valves to shut off flow are many many miles away. If  a valve doesn&#8217;t  work (as happened at Sissonville in  December 2012), it continues to burn longer because the available gas burns  until it is gone.</p>
<p>The explosion itself affects things out to one-quarter  mile.  That is four times the 100 yards  of a football field. Technically, this is called the &#8220;blast zone.&#8221; No fire  yet.  When the outer edge of the gas,  mixing with air around it, gets to 15% gas it can explode.  Mixtures between 5 and 15% gas can burn &#8211;  explosively.  Any spark will do this, EVEN  TURNING ON A CELL PHONE. They recommend you retreat when you smell even a small  gas leak until you are well away from it before using a cellphone.</p>
<p>An exploding gas line, where the gas keeps rolling out under  pressure requires you to go a huge distance &#8211; and don&#8217;t use a gasoline vehicle. Don&#8217;t start a diesel because the starter system can ignite the gas cloud.  If you need to flee the area, you need to do it safely; your information is valuable to responders. The probability of a large gas-air mixture not catching fire is almost  zero. Static electricity or transformers if close enough can also be an ignition source.</p>
<p>When the fireball occurs, the heat and radiation will fry  almost everything within half a mile almost instantly and set all flammables on  fire.  When it has burned for a few  minutes, the heat and radiation will set things on fire within a mile or more  depending on flammability and conditions -wet or dry, but deep snow is best.   If it occurs in a drought, there may be a  15 mile perimeter to contain.</p>
<p>In the event the pipe line bursts anywhere near the high  school, the road from Buckhannon to Adrian will be closed off by the fire.  Both units would be called, as will may  others from a great distance around for a fire of that size.  Essentially nobody has any training in such fires, nor  do they  have appropriate equipment.  The terrain around the high school is typical  West Virginia landscape, i.e., steep and forested usually with deep mud impassable to typical fire trucks, which are designed to  travel hard roads.  Anytime it rains and  all the time in winter, most of the landscape is not accessible to fire  trucks.</p>
<p>And what about the drilling trucks and road damage?  I remember driving the EMT vehicles great  convoys of trucks that slowed down traffic &#8211; of course we had to travel with  them because much of the way on crooked roads we couldn&#8217;t pass.  At times the road speed of 55 was reduced to  35 because of road damage, and sometimes it wasn&#8217;t safe to travel more than 20  miles an hour.  I hate to admit it, but  we lost several patients by having to go so slow.</p>
<p>And think of all the unpaved roads where people live, where fire  trucks offer little protection for them.   In Canada they have much better laws for big pipelines.  They have some experience and proper  engineering.  They need a 3 kilometer  uninhabited corridor for a 42 inch (one meter) line.   And the company must pay for damage when  there is an explosion.</p>
<p>Do you think an  insurance company will pay for an &#8220;accident&#8221; involving hundreds of kids,  practically the whole population of Upshur County of a certain age, hundreds of  cars and a multiple million dollar school complex? Of course, the company would be considered a  self-insured entity, which offers no protection for the community in case of a catastrophic event. How do you think  the executives and stockholders would react knowing this?   Would they want to &#8220;do the right thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have noticed that there is a water tank between the pipeline route and the school, so they would instantly lose their reserve supply of water for fire fighting.  In that spot, within a quarter more or half mile, it would not be possible to protect oneself from the fireball or get away as the 42 inch gas line would be too close.  They would simply fry in place.  And the secondary blast is much bigger than the first blast.</p>
<p>Local &#8220;hazmat&#8221; (hazardous materials) teams are not adapted to  fighting this kind of fire, nor can the teams that put out well fires do it  either.  The scale is just too large and  the effects too quick.  The fire will  continue to burn for days.  A fire like  that couldn&#8217;t be fought with &#8220;water bombers,&#8221; like they use for forest fires in  the West. (These are airplanes which can  fly low over a body of water and pick up water directly from the surface, then  fly and dump it on the forest fire. West Virginia doesn&#8217;t have bodies of water  large enough and suitable for airplanes to fly down and pick up the  water, nor does it have any water bombers.)</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the people planning these large pipelines seem to consider  ordinary people to be expendable.  They seem to considersuch projects to be worth the risk to achieve their financial and personal  objectives.  Even a lot of people and  important facilities such as the high school seem to be worth the &#8220;slight&#8221; risk  involved.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Kevin Campbell was a marine electrical engineer in Florida for many years. He worked on a team of industry leaders to develop the standards for marine electrical systems, which later became U.S. Coast Guard standards. After his wife died, he looked for a new place and change of lifestyle, one of peace and quiet. He was attracted to WV by the kindness of a state policeman and a courtesy car operator who helped him on the Turnpike. He found a suitable building for his equipment, and a good place to live, in Adrian, WV. He is currently an EMT, volunteer firefighter (since 2008), SUBA&#8217;s representative to the Upshur County CVB, a board member and former president of the Upshur County CVB.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
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<p><strong>Pipeline  Informational Meeting Coming Up March 28 in Buckhannon<br />
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<p><span style="color: #333333;">Saturday, March 28, at 1:00 p.m.  at the American Legion building on Kanawha Street in Buckhannon, the Mountain Lakes  Preservation Alliance, together with the Greenbrier River Watershed Association,  will be holding another public </span>meeting regarding several large  pipelines proposed to cross through many West Virginia counties. This meeting is  presented with the needs of the community in mind and is designed to provide  information and knowledge over and above that presented at the  industry-sponsored open houses.</p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">The Atlantic Coast Pipeline  (ACP)</span><span style="color: #333333;">, a 42&#8243; pipeline, will directly affect Harrison, Lewis,  Pocahontas, Randolph, and Upshur Counties in WV. This high-pressure pipeline  would cross several main roads, waterways, and sensitive forest areas,  including Route 20 just below Buckhannon-Upshur High School. It will also  cross US Route 33, Stoney Run, Brushy Fork, Tenmile creek, the Buckhannon River, and  the Middle Fork River. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">It will deforest mountain ridges with a 125-foot  construction corridor, and will destroy small streams. Both original and  alternative routes are proposed to run through</span><span style="color: #333333;"> the pristine Monongahela  National Forest, home to headwater streams for six major rivers, and a delicate  ecosystem, second in diversity only to the rain forest. It will also cross  George Washington National Forest in both West Virginia and Virginia. Upshur  County&#8217;s main transportation corridors and waterways will be at  risk.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">Experts will present talks on the  pipeline and its surrounding issues, including landowner rights, property  values, legal, safety, and other issues related to the proposed  pipeline</span><span style="color: #333333;">.  Elise Keaton, pipeline coordinator, Pamela Dodds, hydrogeologist, and lawyers  from Appalachian Mountain Advocates will</span><span style="color: #333333;"> be available to answer questions from concerned  community members. (The press is expected to attend.)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">At least four inter-state (crossing state lines) and several  intra-state (within state borders) pipelines are proposed for West Virginia so  far. &#8220;It is unclear that we need all of these, and whether the advantages will  outweigh the risks,&#8221; says April Keating of the Mountain Lakes Preservation  Alliance, a multi-county group of concerned citizens. &#8220;If we do accept them,  they should come with conditions, restrictions, and oversight.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #333333;">Lawyers from <a href="http://www.Appalmad.org">Appalachian  Mountain Advocates </a>are offering to represent landowners if challenged over the  right to enter their property for a survey. Whether you have received a survey  letter or are a concerned citizen, you are encouraged to attend the meeting on  Saturday, March 28. These decisions made now could affect many generations of  West Virginians to come.</span></p>
<p>To  learn more, contact Elise Keaton, <a target="_blank">304-647-4792,</a> <a title="mailto:elise@greenbrier.org" href="mailto:elise@greenbrier.org">elise@greenbrier.org</a></p>
<p>Also, <a title="Appalachian Mountain Advocates" href="http://www.Appalmad.org" target="_blank">Appalachian Mountain Advocates</a>,  304-645-9006,  MLPAWV@gmail.com</p>
<p>Submitted by: April Keating, Mountain  Lakes Preservation Alliance, Upshur  County, WV</p>
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