Comments on: Questions and Answers: How to Energize the State of West Virginia? https://www.frackcheckwv.net/2013/05/23/questions-and-answers-how-to-energize-the-state-of-west-virginia/ Just another WordPress site Wed, 14 Feb 2024 02:06:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: S. Thomas Bond https://www.frackcheckwv.net/2013/05/23/questions-and-answers-how-to-energize-the-state-of-west-virginia/#comment-31512 S. Thomas Bond Sun, 26 May 2013 14:15:40 +0000 http://www.frackcheckwv.net/?p=8393#comment-31512 In my opinion "our government" has already been taken. It is already a part of "them." The secret of success for corporations (not only in fracking, but GMO's, XL pipeline, the prison industry, and much more) is to "capture" the functions of government. See Laura Legere's articles in the Times-Tribune: http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/sunday-times-review-of-dep-drilling-records-reveals-water-damage-murky-testing-methods-1.1491547 As long as the principal determinant of government action is money, rather than adequately informed public opinion, it will be that way. And with a huge establishment trained, with individual moral judgment completely subverted to command, like attack dogs, so that it is only necessary to point, sure, calling anti-fracking activists terrorists is a distinct possibility, even likely. In my opinion “our government” has already been taken. It is already a part of “them.” The secret of success for corporations (not only in fracking, but GMO’s, XL pipeline, the prison industry, and much more) is to “capture” the functions of government. See Laura Legere’s articles in the Times-Tribune:

http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/sunday-times-review-of-dep-drilling-records-reveals-water-damage-murky-testing-methods-1.1491547

As long as the principal determinant of government action is money, rather than adequately informed public opinion, it will be that way. And with a huge establishment trained, with individual moral judgment completely subverted to command, like attack dogs, so that it is only necessary to point, sure, calling anti-fracking activists terrorists is a distinct possibility, even likely.

]]> By: Gale Simplicio https://www.frackcheckwv.net/2013/05/23/questions-and-answers-how-to-energize-the-state-of-west-virginia/#comment-31451 Gale Simplicio Sat, 25 May 2013 19:28:14 +0000 http://www.frackcheckwv.net/?p=8393#comment-31451 It doesn't have to be taken at gunpoint because our government officials, state and national, are giving it to them. Otherwise they WOULD take it at gunpoint. And the prison system, and the National Defense Authorization Act, and every other law that re-defines our protections are the preparatory groundwork for when the breaking point is reached and they have to start calling anti-fracking activists 'terrorists' and jailing them. At gunpoint. It doesn’t have to be taken at gunpoint because our government officials, state and national, are giving it to them. Otherwise they WOULD take it at gunpoint. And the prison system, and the National Defense Authorization Act, and every other law that re-defines our protections are the preparatory groundwork for when the breaking point is reached and they have to start calling anti-fracking activists ‘terrorists’ and jailing them. At gunpoint.

]]> By: S. Tom Bond https://www.frackcheckwv.net/2013/05/23/questions-and-answers-how-to-energize-the-state-of-west-virginia/#comment-31362 S. Tom Bond Sat, 25 May 2013 00:19:02 +0000 http://www.frackcheckwv.net/?p=8393#comment-31362 "We willingly concede our most precious resources for short term financial gains." This "We" is not willingly conceding anything, it is being taken away, period. I'm just happy we are not being shot as they are in Zambia, Madagascar and Indonesia, where the problems involve increasing the wealth of foreign investors. I see it as being pretty much the same process, they use their money to ply the government, they ply the media, they ply many smaller businessmen, all the time denying reality. It is "violence" with money, not guns. But I think it is better than blood and guts on the ground. We had one "shooting" less than ten miles from here. A guy "shot" a water truck passenger side window when it had a passenger in it. Police hushed it up - a Deputy looked me straight in the eye and said he hadn't heard of such a thing when I told him that I had talked to the driver of the water truck behind the one that got "shot" at. The state police officially reprimanded the "shooter" for "throwing rocks at the truck." What really happened is blowing in the wind. Sorry my writing wasn't clear enough - so that it allowed interpretation as capitulation. “We willingly concede our most precious resources for short term financial gains.” This “We” is not willingly conceding anything, it is being taken away, period. I’m just happy we are not being shot as they are in Zambia, Madagascar and Indonesia, where the problems involve increasing the wealth of foreign investors.

I see it as being pretty much the same process, they use their money to ply the government, they ply the media, they ply many smaller businessmen, all the time denying reality. It is “violence” with money, not guns. But I think it is better than blood and guts on the ground.

We had one “shooting” less than ten miles from here. A guy “shot” a water truck passenger side window when it had a passenger in it. Police hushed it up – a Deputy looked me straight in the eye and said he hadn’t heard of such a thing when I told him that I had talked to the driver of the water truck behind the one that got “shot” at. The state police officially reprimanded the “shooter” for “throwing rocks at the truck.” What really happened is blowing in the wind.

Sorry my writing wasn’t clear enough – so that it allowed interpretation as capitulation.

]]> By: Yuri Gorby https://www.frackcheckwv.net/2013/05/23/questions-and-answers-how-to-energize-the-state-of-west-virginia/#comment-31338 Yuri Gorby Fri, 24 May 2013 18:27:23 +0000 http://www.frackcheckwv.net/?p=8393#comment-31338 To Tom Bond: I just read your most recent article in Frack Check about the meeting in Buckhannon. "...not being taken at gunpoint", indeed. I think that David and Linda Headley would respectfully disagree. But I do understand your point. We willingly concede our most precious resources for short term financial gains. Disheartening, to say the least. It may be that one day ... perhaps sooner than we think .. repression in the US will be delivered at gunpoint ... or perhaps more advanced technology. We live in a closed container. Just like the bacteria I study, poorly mixed cultures tend to repeat patterns from small scale to larger scale as resources and/or environmental conditions develop. Yuri Gorby, PhD, Troy, NY. To Tom Bond:

I just read your most recent article in Frack Check about the meeting in Buckhannon. “…not being taken at gunpoint”, indeed. I think that David and Linda Headley would respectfully disagree. But I do understand your point. We willingly concede our most precious resources for short term financial gains. Disheartening, to say the least.

It may be that one day … perhaps sooner than we think .. repression in the US will be delivered at gunpoint … or perhaps more advanced technology. We live in a closed container. Just like the bacteria I study, poorly mixed cultures tend to repeat patterns from small scale to larger scale as resources and/or environmental conditions develop.

Yuri Gorby, PhD, Troy, NY.

]]> By: FluxRostrum https://www.frackcheckwv.net/2013/05/23/questions-and-answers-how-to-energize-the-state-of-west-virginia/#comment-31312 FluxRostrum Fri, 24 May 2013 12:47:17 +0000 http://www.frackcheckwv.net/?p=8393#comment-31312 Not being taken at gunpoint? That's suppose to be a plus? Gunpoint is the only way they should be stealing our future! Not being taken at gunpoint? That’s suppose to be a plus?

Gunpoint is the only way they should be stealing our future!

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